It was a marvelous group. And we were very, very close knit because most of the year we only had each other for companions and colleagues. Among the group was Gisela Mosig, who were studying T4, and Eddie Goldberg who was studying T4, that was in the beginning. Of course there was Betty Burgi who had been there for a long time with him and had done most of the Lambda work. And when I joined the group I began working on Lambda. So Betty and I and Al were kind of the focus of the Lambda work in the laboratory.

There was another colleague from New Zealand, Merv Smith, who came. And in the very beginning I shared a laboratory with Merv Smith. Together we worked on various aspects of phage Lambda and T-5 and discovered with those two phages a new form a DNA that was made during replication and that was cancatomeres. And that was the beginning of, I think, of our whole idea about different stage of replication and the origin of our version of the rolling circle model of replication.